Iljoa wrote:

Hi,
I want to propose a feature request; I did this already in Bug 565776; there I was told this should be discussed here, and here I am: There should be the option to edit path layers in an external program.

Hi

It would be nice to have but getting this feature to work good requires quite a bit of work both on GIMP and Inkscape.

- Martin

2008/12/28 Martin Nordholts wrote:

It would be nice to have but getting this feature to work good requires quite a bit of work both on GIMP and Inkscape.

Besides native path editing in gegl's test tool is getting really interesting, and once it's inside GIMP, one would probably not wish going to edit paths elsewhere :)

Alexandre

Hi,

On Sun, 2008-12-28 at 08:58 +0100, Iljoa wrote:

There should be the option to edit path layers in an external program.

You are aware that you can drag a path from the GIMP Paths dialog into Inkscape and edit it there? Unfortunately I can't tell you how you can easily get that path back into GIMP. But if I remember correctly, you should be able to drop an SVG path on GIMP. So if Inkscape provided a way to drag out the path, you'd be all set.

Sven

Hi,

On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 10:00 +0100, Iljoa wrote:

It would be nice to have but getting this feature to work good requires quite a bit of work both on GIMP and Inkscape.

How much work exactly?

The point is that given the amount of active developers on GIMP we have enough feature proposals to work on for the next two decades. And each of those features appears more important than adding yet another way to exchange paths between GIMP and Inkscape. So the best thing we can do at this point is to ask the Inkscape developers to add a way to get a path back into GIMP easily.

But I see also a problem: The paths in GIMP seem to support only a trackle of the svg format.

What do you mean, a trackle of the SVG format? Can you be more specific about this, please?

Sven

Sven Neumann wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 10:00 +0100, Iljoa wrote:

It would be nice to have but getting this feature to work good requires quite a bit of work both on GIMP and Inkscape.

How much work exactly?

The point is that given the amount of active developers on GIMP we have enough feature proposals to work on for the next two decades. And each of those features appears more important than adding yet another way to exchange paths between GIMP and Inkscape. So the best thing we can do at this point is to ask the Inkscape developers to add a way to get a path back into GIMP easily.

But I see also a problem: The paths in GIMP seem to support only a trackle of the svg format.

What do you mean, a trackle of the SVG format? Can you be more specific about this, please?

Sven

SVG is not just a ... but a full blown xml spec that includes javascript and DOM. How much of that is handled by GIMP?

I'm also unaware of the word trackle but I think the meaning is clear.

/gg

Hi,

On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 12:40 +0100, gg wrote:

SVG is not just a ... but a full blown xml spec that includes javascript and DOM. How much of that is handled by GIMP?

I'm also unaware of the word trackle but I think the meaning is clear.

Sorry, but the sentence in question was "The paths in GIMP seem to support only a trackle of the svg format.". So we are not discussing full support of SVG here, but only paths in SVG files. And as far as I can see GIMP supports all features of SVG paths. SVG paths don't cover all aspects of GIMP paths though, but they can be used as a reasonable approximation.

Sven

2008/12/29 Sven Neumann wrote:

exchange paths between GIMP and Inkscape. So the best thing we can do at this point is to ask the Inkscape developers to add a way to get a path back into GIMP easily.

It already works with Inkscape from SVN trunk. You just copy a path in Inkscape to clipboard and Ctrl+V it in GIMP's image window.

Alexandre

Hi,

On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 17:28 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

It already works with Inkscape from SVN trunk. You just copy a path in Inkscape to clipboard and Ctrl+V it in GIMP's image window.

Seems somewhat hard to discover that you can get a path from GIMP into Inkscape using DnD and need to use the clipboard to get it back. Ideally it should be possible to exchange paths in both directions using either DnD or the clipboard.

Sven

Iljoa wrote:

In GIMP I cannot define a fill color, stroke color, type and width. I hava a naked bezier curve without any additional information.

It is worth mentioning that GIMP 2.8 is planned to have basic vector layers which supports exactly that. The enhancement request to track is:

Bug 557970 – Merge vector layers GSoC Project http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557970

- Martin

2008/12/29 Martin Nordholts :

Iljoa wrote:

In GIMP I cannot define a fill color, stroke color, type and width. I hava a naked bezier curve without any additional information.

It is worth mentioning that GIMP 2.8 is planned to have basic vector layers which supports exactly that. The enhancement request to track is:

Bug 557970 – Merge vector layers GSoC Project http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557970

Wow, I had no idea there was progress on this front! It makes me very happy that my code won't go to waste. =)

Henk

All I can do is to modify the path and to draw it as a bitmap graphic.

Isn't the GIMP supposed to editing photos and creating original works with pixel-based formats? It still lacks functionality or ease of use with those tasks, so why should paths and SVG need support past what it has now? If you need to work with paths and non-SVG graphics at the same time, then tighter integration with Inkscape or some other vector creation programme is what you should push for.

2008/12/30 Mirai Warren wrote:

Isn't the GIMP supposed to editing photos and creating original works with pixel-based formats? It still lacks functionality or ease of use with those tasks, so why should paths and SVG need support past what it has now?

Artificial limitation for creative process tends to bite back badly

Alexandre