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gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour Theodore Imre 10 Nov 20:38
  gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour Martin Nordholts 10 Nov 20:57
   gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour Sven Neumann 10 Nov 21:41
    gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour Martin Nordholts 10 Nov 21:51
  gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour Sven Neumann 10 Nov 21:38
  gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour Theodore Imre 10 Nov 22:00
   gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour Alessandro Falappa 11 Nov 10:01
    gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour Theodore Imre 11 Nov 17:27
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  gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour Martin Nordholts 10 Nov 22:12
Theodore Imre
2008-11-10 20:38:11 UTC (over 16 years ago)

gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour

Curently Gimp is not capable of being set to a standart zoom in/out behaviour that most tablet drawing applications have- that is zooming in/out using the scroll of the mouse/tablet. And zooming in/out in the area where the pointer is and NOT the upper left corner (so there would be no need to navigate every time one zooms in/out and loose lots of time)..

If Gimps developers would likely say my request is nothing important,i would just like to ask why? There is no possible way of setting gimp's keyboard shortcuts to scroll up/scroll down.. also there is no smooth scrolling. I really miss that feature for its a real time saver when scribbling and makes the whole drawing process less frustrating.

The other thing is the position on the canvas when zooming in, gimp is extremely annoying in that perspective,because each time after one zooms,he has to navigate to the needed place on the canvas.Imagine you zoom ALOT and then you have to scroll upon those pixels to find your place..Its really annoying behaviour to go and zoom in the corner always..

The feature of zoom out-in behaviour mimicking software such as paint tool sai or artrage or even google sketch up,or at least the option to become avaiable to the user (if you dont think it should be default,which im sure you will do just to save the time to implement this basic feature), at least make it possible to enable by the non-techie users that do not want to compile expresskeys (which is outdated and doesnt work anymore) just to get halfway there.

Martin Nordholts
2008-11-10 20:57:34 UTC (over 16 years ago)

gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour

Hi and thanks for the feedback

Theodore Imre wrote:

Curently Gimp is not capable of being set to a standart zoom in/out behaviour that most tablet drawing applications have- that is zooming in/out using the scroll of the mouse/tablet.

That is correct, currently the Ctrl + Scroll in/out for keyboard command for zooming is hard coded. I think it makes sense to be able to customize that however, and if everyone agrees that all that is missing is someone to implement it.

And zooming in/out in the area where the pointer is and NOT the upper left corner (so there would be no need to navigate every time one zooms in/out and loose lots of time)..

What you describe sounds like a bug, if you zoom in/out you GIMP is supposed to not move the pixel under the cursor in most cases. One exception is for example when the image becomes small enough to fit in the viewport; then the image is centered.

also there is no smooth
scrolling. I really miss that feature for its a real time saver when scribbling and makes the whole drawing process less frustrating.

Smooth scrolling is technically possible, especially since GIMP started to use a mip-map for the projection. It shouldn't be very hard to enable smooth scrolling when scrolling with the mouse wheel somehow, but again, someone needs to write the code.

The other thing is the position on the canvas when zooming in, gimp is extremely annoying in that perspective,because each time after one zooms,he has to navigate to the needed place on the canvas.Imagine you zoom ALOT and then you have to scroll upon those pixels to find your place..Its really annoying behaviour to go and zoom in the corner always..

Again, it sounds like you describe a buggy behaviour. Note that you can pan around by holding Space or the Middle Mouse Button, and then move the mouse.

Best regards,
Martin Nordholts

Sven Neumann
2008-11-10 21:38:05 UTC (over 16 years ago)

gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour

Hi,

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 21:38 +0200, Theodore Imre wrote:

The other thing is the position on the canvas when zooming in, gimp is extremely annoying in that perspective,because each time after one zooms,he has to navigate to the needed place on the canvas.

This sounds like you are using a rather outdated version of GIMP. What version are you using?

Sven

Sven Neumann
2008-11-10 21:41:29 UTC (over 16 years ago)

gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour

Hi,

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 20:57 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote:

That is correct, currently the Ctrl + Scroll in/out for keyboard command for zooming is hard coded. I think it makes sense to be able to customize that however, and if everyone agrees that all that is missing is someone to implement it.

This is already configurable. If you go to the Preferences dialog and edit the binding for the "Main Mouse Wheel" you can set Scroll Up/Down to "view-zoom-in" and "view-zoom-out" to get the requested behavior.

Sven

Martin Nordholts
2008-11-10 21:51:46 UTC (over 16 years ago)

gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour

Sven Neumann wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 20:57 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote:

That is correct, currently the Ctrl + Scroll in/out for keyboard command for zooming is hard coded. I think it makes sense to be able to customize that however, and if everyone agrees that all that is missing is someone to implement it.

This is already configurable. If you go to the Preferences dialog and edit the binding for the "Main Mouse Wheel" you can set Scroll Up/Down to "view-zoom-in" and "view-zoom-out" to get the requested behavior.

You're right of course, I was looking at completely irrelevant code.

- Martin

Theodore Imre
2008-11-10 22:00:08 UTC (over 16 years ago)

gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour

Where is that setting? At keyboard shortcut settings? When i edit the binding by just scrolling up/down, it does not assign it as a shortcut.Rather it just scrolls up/down on the settings window

using Gimp 2.6.0

Martin Nordholts
2008-11-10 22:12:56 UTC (over 16 years ago)

gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour

Theodore Imre wrote:

Martin, Thank you for the patient reply. My main reasoning about the scroll zooming is that one does not have to use the keyboard shortcuts to do it, which is perfect when drawing with a tablet.

The reason gimp does not zoom in where i want it to,is not a bug,but my way of zooming- which is by choosing it from the view menu or the % menu on the bottom- whereas the cursor is not on the canvas then, thats why gimp zooms in the upper left corner i guess.

Don't reply to me privately please.

When using the image window menu entries under View -> Zoom or the zoom entry at the bottom of an image window, the zoom focus point should be the center of the image. If not, please file a bug report to bugs.gimp.org with unamigious step-by-steps on how to reproduce the problem.

- Martin

I really wish i could help somehow for this simple feature to be avaiable,but im really not very keen with code and dont understand gimp's source code to do something about it.

Before i had a tablet i loved gimp,it was just after i started using a tablet that i found out that its gui is getting in my way and some of its flaws in design or lack of customisation doesnt make it a good choice for using with a tablet. Which i think is a pitty- there are basic stuff that im sure is not all that hard to implement or need a lot of man power to do..

Some people try to patch up some of the inconviniente interface downfalls: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Gimper?content=88495 this is another feature which i think makes gimp more easy to use with a tablet..

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote:

Hi and thanks for the feedback

Theodore Imre wrote:

Curently Gimp is not capable of being set to a standart zoom in/out behaviour that most tablet drawing applications have- that is zooming in/out using the scroll of the mouse/tablet.

That is correct, currently the Ctrl + Scroll in/out for keyboard command for zooming is hard coded. I think it makes sense to be able to customize that however, and if everyone agrees that all that is missing is someone to implement it.

And zooming in/out in the area where the pointer is and NOT the upper left corner (so there would be no need to navigate every time one zooms in/out and loose lots of time)..

What you describe sounds like a bug, if you zoom in/out you GIMP is supposed to not move the pixel under the cursor in most cases. One exception is for example when the image becomes small enough to fit in the viewport; then the image is centered.

also there is no smooth
scrolling. I really miss that feature for its a real time saver when scribbling and makes the whole drawing process less frustrating.

Smooth scrolling is technically possible, especially since GIMP started to use a mip-map for the projection. It shouldn't be very hard to enable smooth scrolling when scrolling with the mouse wheel somehow, but again, someone needs to write the code.

The other thing is the position on the canvas when zooming in, gimp is extremely annoying in that perspective,because each time after one zooms,he has to navigate to the needed place on the canvas.Imagine you zoom ALOT and then you have to scroll upon those pixels to find your place..Its really annoying behaviour to go and zoom in the corner always..

Again, it sounds like you describe a buggy behaviour. Note that you can pan around by holding Space or the Middle Mouse Button, and then move the mouse.

Best regards,
Martin Nordholts

Alessandro Falappa
2008-11-11 10:01:50 UTC (over 16 years ago)

gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour

Hi Theodore

Theodore Imre ha scritto:

Where is that setting? At keyboard shortcut settings? When i edit the binding by just scrolling up/down, it does not assign it as a shortcut.Rather it just scrolls up/down on the settings window

You may have a look at the online manual even if it refers to Gimp 2.4. See http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-pimping.html#gimp-prefs-input-controllers

using Gimp 2.6.0

The bug you mention seems to be fixed in Gimp 2.6.2. see http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS-2.6

Hope it helps

Cheers

Theodore Imre
2008-11-11 17:27:04 UTC (over 16 years ago)

gimp keyboard assignment f-request - zoom in/out behaviour

thanks allesandro. I will have to compile the latest version... On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Alessandro Falappa wrote:

Hi Theodore

Theodore Imre ha scritto:

Where is that setting? At keyboard shortcut settings? When i edit the binding by just scrolling up/down, it does not assign it as a shortcut.Rather it just scrolls up/down on the settings window

You may have a look at the online manual even if it refers to Gimp 2.4. See http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-pimping.html#gimp-prefs-input-controllers

using Gimp 2.6.0

The bug you mention seems to be fixed in Gimp 2.6.2. see http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS-2.6

Hope it helps

Cheers

-- Alessandro Falappa
web: http://www.falappa.net/