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Request to include Gimp Manual Monica Kraenzle 22 Oct 13:52
  Request to include Gimp Manual Sven Neumann 22 Oct 23:28
Request to include Gimp Manual Monica Kraenzle 23 Oct 03:02
  Request to include Gimp Manual Roman Joost 23 Oct 10:27
Request to include Gimp Manual Monica Kraenzle 23 Oct 04:19
  Request to include Gimp Manual Roman Joost 24 Oct 12:48
Monica Kraenzle
2008-10-22 13:52:37 UTC (about 16 years ago)

Request to include Gimp Manual

Hi Roman,

I still think there is a kind of misunderstanding.

1. Susan A. Jones is the penname used for the editor of this book used to set it up at Amazon. The term editor can create confusion for people less familiar with English, because it is used in various senses in the publishing industry. For this book the editor has technically prepared the manuscripts for this publication to be printed as a physical book. In the publishing industry it is a very common way to name a book editor and does not violate any author rights.

2. Susan A. Jones is in NO way mentioned within the manual book. Not on the book cover and not inside the book (but Amazon used the word "Author" in their listing instead of using the wording "Editor" and I made the same mistake in my first message here on the message board when I asked for adding the book.) If you take a look at Amazon you will find thousands of book pages where the editor name is mentioned instead of the author names.

3. There is no Author mentioned on the cover. All authors are correctly mentioned within the manual book. Inside the book there is the page called "Preface, Users Manual Authors and Contributors" Quoting this page:

User Manual Authors and Contributors Content Writers William Skaggs, C´ edric Gémy, Julien Hardelin, Raymond Ostertag, Mel Boyce, Daniel Egger, Róman Joost, Oliver Ellis
Graphics, Stylesheets Jakub Steiner, Róman Joost, Daniel Egger Build System, Technical Contributions Sven Neumann, Michael Natterer, Henrik Brix Andersen, Daniel Egger, Thomas Schraitle, Chris Hübsch, Axel Wernicke
Project Maintenance Róman Joost, Daniel Egger

To make that more evident and obvious we will update the book product description with adding all author names within the description as listed in the manual. (These are different names as on there are now on the website you sent me the link.) I will also try to force Amazon to correct their wrong wording on their product page (Editor instead of Author).

I already signed up with the DocList and I hope we can discuss their the possibility of publishing an updated manual. Thanks,

Monica
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Sven Neumann
2008-10-22 23:28:50 UTC (about 16 years ago)

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Hi,

I suggest that we leave it up to the gimp-docs team then to decide if a link to this book on amazon should be added to http://www.gimp.org/books/ or if we should wait until an updated version has been prepared together with the documentation team. Please inform the gimp-web list about your decision.

Sven

Monica Kraenzle
2008-10-23 03:02:28 UTC (about 16 years ago)

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The users manual version we used is for gimp 2.4, dated December 2007.

I have uploaded a reduced pdf to show the cover and the interior pages: http://www.maxishare.net/en/file/8416/gimp-manual-2-4-reduced-pdf.html

The only customizations we made is creating a cover and formatting this electronic manual to a printed manual. All authors and contributors, license terms, information about what version, link to the gimp.org site for updates etc. are included.

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Monica Kraenzle
2008-10-23 04:19:28 UTC (about 16 years ago)

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We have just submitted an updated, more accurate product description to Amazon which should appear live soon:

"718-pages paperback-book print edition of the electronic manual, written and released by the Gimp-Documentation team. The ultimate Users Manual for GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program), the Photo and image Software for Photo Retouching, Image Composition and Image Authoring. The GIMP software program is available for free at www.gimp.org .

WRITTEN by the GIMP-Documentation Team. Content Writers: William Skaggs, C'edric Gémy, Julien Hardelin, Raymond Ostertag, Mel Boyce, Daniel Egger, Róman Joost, Oliver Ellis. Formatted into book print version by editor Susan A. Jones

This manual is written by the Gimp-Documentation Team, constantly developed and updated over years and officially released to the public. Additional new Gimp 2.6 features are not included yet in this 718-pages book but updates on these new features as always can be found at www.gimp.org ."

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Roman Joost
2008-10-23 10:27:33 UTC (about 16 years ago)

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Hi Monica,

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:02:28PM -0300, Monica Kraenzle wrote:

The users manual version we used is for gimp 2.4, dated December 2007.

I have uploaded a reduced pdf to show the cover and the interior pages: http://www.maxishare.net/en/file/8416/gimp-manual-2-4-reduced-pdf.html

Thanks a lot - very appreciated. I'll have a look at it and will reply as soon as possible.

Cheers,

Roman Joost
2008-10-24 12:48:56 UTC (about 16 years ago)

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Hi Monica,

all in all to settle things down a bit.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:19:28PM -0300, Monica Kraenzle wrote:

We have just submitted an updated, more accurate product description to Amazon which should appear live soon:

Thanks for doing this.

Though, after all I wonder if the book is still published and available through Amazon. The URL http://gimpmanual.weebly.com is down and it looks like the published book is gone.

So... what's the status now?

Cheers,